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Add Category:Anal sex 202.134.11.235 (talk) 11:01, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Mpox - misleading statement

The statement in this article that “Mpox has been shown to disproportionately affect men who have sex with men” is inaccurate and misleading.

This is true only of the 2023 clade 2 global infection that disproportionately affected MSM outside Africa. However, Mpox has been an endemic infection in parts of Africa since the early 1970s. In that time, there have been many thousands of recorded infections in the general population, through community spread. These outbreaks are not associated with MSM. The current Clade 1b outbreak is unduly affecting women and children, not MSM. Therefore the statement is inaccurate. This is a partial view of the epidemiology of this disease that focuses on MSM rather than the full epidemiology. It plays to the unconscious association of homosexuality with disease. 165.120.88.67 (talk) 22:46, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It probably can be clarified, as you say, that it is associated with MSM outside of Africa. Zenomonoz (talk) 23:35, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Lead image

I propose to change the lead image to this one. I first tried updating it via good faith edit and it was removed because I had left the previous one as well, without mentioning which one they preferred. So I added it again this time to replace the previous one per their wish to only have one kissing image, while citing my rationale, but they removed it without saying why they prefer the previous image.

I believe my proposed image is a better representation of men who have sex with men, as they are of all ethnicities, and the existing photo is only of two white-looking people (see Racism in the LGBTQ community for a relevant discussion on the intersection of race and non-straight people, and for some reasons why representation of people other than just white people is important). Additionally, the proposed photo isn't as zoomed in, and is in color versus the highly cropped black and white existing photo. I'd like to seek consensus. Thoughts? Pastelitodepapa (talk) 02:36, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This is your personal preference, alright, but I don't like the reverting before other editors have weighed in.

The Racism in the LGBTQ community article doesn't seem relevant to what the lead image is here. You seem to be opposed to having two white guys as the lead image, an argument you also made when changing the lead image on gay men. This kind of editing across multiple articles is probably discouraged (e.g. see WP:ADVOCACY). You are welcome to include other imagery throughout the article, so I wonder why the focus on the lead?

While I am not opposed to changing the image, I mostly think your proposed image looks slightly amateur with a bit of lens distortion, but thats me. Zenomonoz (talk) 07:34, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]